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Thanks for the reply Brendan. On call all this week so will pop along a week Wednesday. Do you still meet up regardless of weather? The first thing that drew me to this kind of scope was the physical size as I may look at setting it up in the loft, was also looking at the Skywatcher equivalent. Also portability. Will have a good chat when I get to Pex Hill, will try and get my dad along as he has recently got a Skywatcher 130p.