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Hi Mark thanx for the invite, I will definetley be coming up to Pex Hill, sadly cannot make tonight, the 2 scopes I have looked @ both reflectors, thr celestron has a bigger apperture, ideally i want to get to view deep space objects eventually so would be prepared to get the more expensive of my 2 options, from what limited knowledge I have, it seems the bigger the apperture the better, many of the sights I have visited seem to rate celestron, do you have an opinion?